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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m speaking at the eCampaigning forum: what should I talk about?</title>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://blog.brian-fitzgerald.net/?p=194&#038;cpage=1#comment-61954</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We sent this below to a message from Ricken Patel promoting various causes. The web page led us to this address to leave our comment.  Thanks.


Please understand we pay taxes and need to know HOW these wishes you propose may be funded.  We agree with many of these needs of our nation and the world, but something has to be cut.  It is all to easy to make a list of wants.
 
 
Please understand the &quot;We the People&quot; that voted in Obama consist of:
 
 
        40% of the nation that does not pay any income tax, those  who look to more and more hand outs from we who work who are forced to pay
 
        Illegal aliens who may number 12-20 million persons who sap the life blood of our social services from schools to health care and
make up over 30% of our prison population
 
        Inter city welfare slugs who have multi generational records of doing nothing for the nation, the pure takers from society
 
        The immoral to include homosexuals and those that strive to destroy our family values  and infect our youth with their sickness
 
        The majority of media, currently standing at 92% as registered Democrats, who long ago stop providing news
 
        Unionized labor like the 21 yr old girl we met last week who as a high school graduate earns $45/hour as a welder while the average wage 
in the nation is less than $20/hr.  That doubling of a wage by unions is killing our nation
 
        Unionized public school teachers who use the union to assure their jobs despite many being incompetent
 
        Hollywood, TV and other entertainers who like Oprah noted on TV yesterday how she was impressed the drug addicts were at the polls with 
her to vote for Obama and wow what a positive thing that was to witness
 
 
 
We are not in any of the groups noted above who voted for the Obama the orator, the man who has not had the experience of managing even a business as small as your corner McDonalds.  
 
 
We are people that:
 
 
        Have worked all our life and paid the taxes for the countless, irresponsible  slugs and dead beats included above 
 
        Have served many years in national service to preserve the freedoms of this nation and extend them to the world
 
        Worked for and earned college degrees and professional certificates to be of more value to our nation
 
        Raised 7 children, 6 engineers and a nurse, all of which work and pay taxes and serve their communities
 
        Nurture 24 grandchildren who we hope none of which will join those listed above but become productive, responsible citizens
 
        Have worked these last 15 years as a volunteer engineer (at no salary) in providing pure water to the rural poor in Africa, Asia
and Latin America
 
        Have served in teaching and leadership positions in our church for over 45 years to try and make people&#039;s lived better
 
 
 
        
We laud your intent but ask that you think too about the price you may be asking us to pay.  Do consider what rot needs to be removed so those funds may be used for a greater good.
 
 
 
Your Engineer In Pennsylvania
 
 
 
 
 Please understand we pay taxes and need to know HOW these wishes you propose may be funded.  We agree with many of these needs of our nation and the world, but something has to be cut.  It is all to easy to make a list of wants.
 
 
Please understand the &quot;We the People&quot; that voted in Obama consist of:
 
 
        40% of the nation that does not pay any income tax, those  who look to more and more hand outs from we who work who are forced to pay
 
        Illegal aliens who may number 12-20 million persons who sap the life blood of our social services from schools to health care and
                make up over 30% of our prison population
 
        Inter city welfare slugs who have multi generational records of doing nothing for the nation, the pure takers from society
 
        The immoral to include homosexuals and those that strive to destroy our family values  and infect our youth with their sickness
 
        The majority of media, currently standing at 92% as registered Democrats, who long ago stop providing news
 
        Unionized labor like the 21 yr old girl we met last week who as a high school graduate earns $45/hour as a welder while the average wage 
                in the nation is less than $20/hr.  That doubling of a wage by unions is killing our nation
 
        Unionized public school teachers who use the union to assure their jobs despite many being incompetent
 
        Hollywood, TV and other entertainers who like Oprah noted on TV yesterday how she was impressed the drug addicts were at the polls with 
                her to vote for Obama and wow what a positive thing that was to witness
 
 
 
We are not in any of the groups noted above who voted for the Obama the orator, the man who has not had the experience of managing even a business as small as your corner McDonalds.  
 
 
We are people that:
 
 
        Have worked all our life and paid the taxes for the countless, irresponsible  slugs and dead beats included above 
 
        Have served many years in the military to preserve the freedoms of this nation and extend them to the world
 
        Worked for and earned college degrees and professional certificates to be of more value to our nation
 
        Raised 7 children, 6 engineers and a nurse, all of which work and pay taxes and serve their communities
 
        Nurture 24 grandchildren who we hope none of which will join those listed above but become productive, responsible citizens
 
        Have worked these last 15 years as a volunteer engineer (at no salary) in providing pure water to the rural poor in Africa, Asia
                and Latin America
 
        Have served in teaching and leadership positions in our church for over 45 years to try and make people&#039;s lived better
 
 
 
        
We laud your intent but ask that you think too about the price you may be asking us to pay.  Do consider what rot needs to be removed so those funds may be used for a greater good.
 
 
 
Your Engineer In Pennsylvania</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We sent this below to a message from Ricken Patel promoting various causes. The web page led us to this address to leave our comment.  Thanks.</p>
<p>Please understand we pay taxes and need to know HOW these wishes you propose may be funded.  We agree with many of these needs of our nation and the world, but something has to be cut.  It is all to easy to make a list of wants.</p>
<p>Please understand the &#8220;We the People&#8221; that voted in Obama consist of:</p>
<p>        40% of the nation that does not pay any income tax, those  who look to more and more hand outs from we who work who are forced to pay</p>
<p>        Illegal aliens who may number 12-20 million persons who sap the life blood of our social services from schools to health care and<br />
make up over 30% of our prison population</p>
<p>        Inter city welfare slugs who have multi generational records of doing nothing for the nation, the pure takers from society</p>
<p>        The immoral to include homosexuals and those that strive to destroy our family values  and infect our youth with their sickness</p>
<p>        The majority of media, currently standing at 92% as registered Democrats, who long ago stop providing news</p>
<p>        Unionized labor like the 21 yr old girl we met last week who as a high school graduate earns $45/hour as a welder while the average wage<br />
in the nation is less than $20/hr.  That doubling of a wage by unions is killing our nation</p>
<p>        Unionized public school teachers who use the union to assure their jobs despite many being incompetent</p>
<p>        Hollywood, TV and other entertainers who like Oprah noted on TV yesterday how she was impressed the drug addicts were at the polls with<br />
her to vote for Obama and wow what a positive thing that was to witness</p>
<p>We are not in any of the groups noted above who voted for the Obama the orator, the man who has not had the experience of managing even a business as small as your corner McDonalds.  </p>
<p>We are people that:</p>
<p>        Have worked all our life and paid the taxes for the countless, irresponsible  slugs and dead beats included above </p>
<p>        Have served many years in national service to preserve the freedoms of this nation and extend them to the world</p>
<p>        Worked for and earned college degrees and professional certificates to be of more value to our nation</p>
<p>        Raised 7 children, 6 engineers and a nurse, all of which work and pay taxes and serve their communities</p>
<p>        Nurture 24 grandchildren who we hope none of which will join those listed above but become productive, responsible citizens</p>
<p>        Have worked these last 15 years as a volunteer engineer (at no salary) in providing pure water to the rural poor in Africa, Asia<br />
and Latin America</p>
<p>        Have served in teaching and leadership positions in our church for over 45 years to try and make people&#8217;s lived better</p>
<p>We laud your intent but ask that you think too about the price you may be asking us to pay.  Do consider what rot needs to be removed so those funds may be used for a greater good.</p>
<p>Your Engineer In Pennsylvania</p>
<p> Please understand we pay taxes and need to know HOW these wishes you propose may be funded.  We agree with many of these needs of our nation and the world, but something has to be cut.  It is all to easy to make a list of wants.</p>
<p>Please understand the &#8220;We the People&#8221; that voted in Obama consist of:</p>
<p>        40% of the nation that does not pay any income tax, those  who look to more and more hand outs from we who work who are forced to pay</p>
<p>        Illegal aliens who may number 12-20 million persons who sap the life blood of our social services from schools to health care and<br />
                make up over 30% of our prison population</p>
<p>        Inter city welfare slugs who have multi generational records of doing nothing for the nation, the pure takers from society</p>
<p>        The immoral to include homosexuals and those that strive to destroy our family values  and infect our youth with their sickness</p>
<p>        The majority of media, currently standing at 92% as registered Democrats, who long ago stop providing news</p>
<p>        Unionized labor like the 21 yr old girl we met last week who as a high school graduate earns $45/hour as a welder while the average wage<br />
                in the nation is less than $20/hr.  That doubling of a wage by unions is killing our nation</p>
<p>        Unionized public school teachers who use the union to assure their jobs despite many being incompetent</p>
<p>        Hollywood, TV and other entertainers who like Oprah noted on TV yesterday how she was impressed the drug addicts were at the polls with<br />
                her to vote for Obama and wow what a positive thing that was to witness</p>
<p>We are not in any of the groups noted above who voted for the Obama the orator, the man who has not had the experience of managing even a business as small as your corner McDonalds.  </p>
<p>We are people that:</p>
<p>        Have worked all our life and paid the taxes for the countless, irresponsible  slugs and dead beats included above </p>
<p>        Have served many years in the military to preserve the freedoms of this nation and extend them to the world</p>
<p>        Worked for and earned college degrees and professional certificates to be of more value to our nation</p>
<p>        Raised 7 children, 6 engineers and a nurse, all of which work and pay taxes and serve their communities</p>
<p>        Nurture 24 grandchildren who we hope none of which will join those listed above but become productive, responsible citizens</p>
<p>        Have worked these last 15 years as a volunteer engineer (at no salary) in providing pure water to the rural poor in Africa, Asia<br />
                and Latin America</p>
<p>        Have served in teaching and leadership positions in our church for over 45 years to try and make people&#8217;s lived better</p>
<p>We laud your intent but ask that you think too about the price you may be asking us to pay.  Do consider what rot needs to be removed so those funds may be used for a greater good.</p>
<p>Your Engineer In Pennsylvania</p>
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		<title>By: brianfit</title>
		<link>http://blog.brian-fitzgerald.net/?p=194&#038;cpage=1#comment-17819</link>
		<dc:creator>brianfit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI Bob, your link fails can you give it another go? I hear you about those editor&#039;s scissors. In my early days as an activist the first goal was &quot;get your issue in the media,&quot; which meant we all learned to talk like journalists.  When I see, for example, Ze Frank&#039;s occassional forrays into activist territory, I&#039;m blown away about how he can use a raw, genuine voice to convey outrage in a direct medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Bob, your link fails can you give it another go? I hear you about those editor&#8217;s scissors. In my early days as an activist the first goal was &#8220;get your issue in the media,&#8221; which meant we all learned to talk like journalists.  When I see, for example, Ze Frank&#8217;s occassional forrays into activist territory, I&#8217;m blown away about how he can use a raw, genuine voice to convey outrage in a direct medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://blog.brian-fitzgerald.net/?p=194&#038;cpage=1#comment-17357</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an old Kiwi campaigner I delight in the ability of the Web to bring change - gone are the days when the editor&#039;s scissors could gut an effort to the local newspaper. Gone are the days when the vested interests owning the news media could hold sway - now we can present a full salvo!

My blog here 
http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0A0Ny_kzaPeMkwcfgf9_KA--;_ylt=AuT1d26Gt_PryaYkhdeaTU..AOJ3?cq=1
spells out my feelings on a range of issues which I believe weaves a lot of strands.

Society is in overload - we can&#039;t bombard them with doom and gloom - we have to bring in the positives too. At a certain point the proverbial straw will break the camel&#039;s back.

I believe we have to develop strategies - the right mix at the right time in a reasoned well thought way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an old Kiwi campaigner I delight in the ability of the Web to bring change &#8211; gone are the days when the editor&#8217;s scissors could gut an effort to the local newspaper. Gone are the days when the vested interests owning the news media could hold sway &#8211; now we can present a full salvo!</p>
<p>My blog here<br />
<a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0A0Ny_kzaPeMkwcfgf9_KA--;_ylt=AuT1d26Gt_PryaYkhdeaTU..AOJ3?cq=1" rel="nofollow">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0A0Ny_kzaPeMkwcfgf9_KA&#8211;;_ylt=AuT1d26Gt_PryaYkhdeaTU..AOJ3?cq=1</a><br />
spells out my feelings on a range of issues which I believe weaves a lot of strands.</p>
<p>Society is in overload &#8211; we can&#8217;t bombard them with doom and gloom &#8211; we have to bring in the positives too. At a certain point the proverbial straw will break the camel&#8217;s back.</p>
<p>I believe we have to develop strategies &#8211; the right mix at the right time in a reasoned well thought way</p>
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